tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309896.post5840054883353705133..comments2024-03-18T09:28:08.708-04:00Comments on Maior autem his est caritas: How to reform the Vatican. (YAWN)Fr. Gaurav Shroff http://www.blogger.com/profile/04964314266441708310noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309896.post-62661956285138400612008-04-23T16:35:00.000-04:002008-04-23T16:35:00.000-04:00Jason, that may have been how Fr. Reese started th...Jason, that may have been how Fr. Reese started the article, but it devolved very quickly into the same old thing. To me, these various ways to squeeze the government of the Church into a liberal, Western, mold do seem to implicitly deny the divine foundation of the Church. This is not to say that the Church doesn't need checks and balances, or that the Holy Spirit is involved in every little (Fr. Gaurav Shroff https://www.blogger.com/profile/04964314266441708310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309896.post-21712608619466997792008-04-23T16:19:00.000-04:002008-04-23T16:19:00.000-04:00Well put, l.t., and this is in line with Pope Bene...Well put, l.t., and this is in line with Pope Benedict's dialogue with the Orthodox. I think he knows the direction things are headed.<BR/><BR/>I hope that we Orthodox get our act together and help the process along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309896.post-25070803299497451602008-04-23T15:52:00.000-04:002008-04-23T15:52:00.000-04:00Reese's argument cuts both ways. The borrowing fr...Reese's argument cuts both ways. The borrowing from secular society is largely to blame for the bloated centralized structure he and most liberals reject. The swelling of papal claims to jurisdictional primacy, and later to infallibility, all drew energy and ideas from the paganism of Germanic (Franks & Goths) tribes. We forget that papal centralization was originally advocated, not from Rome,L.T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12698653133822317071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309896.post-41242779583570662942008-04-23T15:50:00.000-04:002008-04-23T15:50:00.000-04:00I was most amused by Fr Reese's assertion that the...I was most amused by Fr Reese's assertion that the Church needs a judiciary independent from the Supreme Pontiff. Perhaps, I am not offering the most charitable reading of his piece, but as I understand it, juridical authority is derived from the power of the keys. To separate juridical power from the pastoral authority of Christ's vicar on Earth would make it even more unjust (because it would Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17309896.post-64190100103808716602008-04-23T14:58:00.000-04:002008-04-23T14:58:00.000-04:00Actually, I think a major point Fr. Reese is makin...Actually, I think a major point Fr. Reese is making is that throughout her history the Church's governance has been shaped by secular politics. To think that she has consistently risen above the ordinary ways that governments ruled themselves is inaccurate. That's not to dismiss the work of the Divine in her institutions, but to recognize that she has regularly taken examples from other forms Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16718425732729377189noreply@blogger.com